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    Hmmmm.... I wonder what's up. Bet they all retire to south America.

    What’s happening is the same thing that happens with any major conflict. Weak minded individuals do not have the stomach for war. Months and years go by and bodies start stacking and what started out as a patriotic, stand our ground and push the invaders out of our country, becomes “We need to think about concessions”.
     

    Rebel_Rider1969

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    What’s happening is the same thing that happens with any major conflict. Weak minded individuals do not have the stomach for war. Months and years go by and bodies start stacking and what started out as a patriotic, stand our ground and push the invaders out of our country, becomes “We need to think about concessions”.
    I figured they stole enough and the end of the $$$ is coming.
     

    Bodhisattva

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    I figured they stole enough and the end of the $$$ is coming.
    Following the Nazi plans from WW2. Watching for large Ukranian settlements to pop up in SA.
     

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    All these skunks are going to retire millionaires thanks to the American taxpayer. And Biden Admin. Un-phucking believable. Just sickening
    Yeah there will be a lot of American politicians right there with them and not mention retired Generals and Military industrial Complex CEOs.
     

    Bodhisattva

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    More likely Israel...
    That too, but less chance that your neighbors will be trying to annihilate you on a daily basis if you live in SA.
     

    Bodhisattva

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    All these skunks are going to retire millionaires thanks to the American taxpayer. And Biden Admin. Un-phucking believable. Just sickening
    Wouldn't you like to have that tax credit?
    I mean all the hardware left overseas; all the money being pissed away in middle east....ukraine.....fug is right!
    Just think if the idiots we elected actually spent that money in the US....maybe on the border.....maybe to find a cure for cancer.....
     

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    Wouldn't you like to have that tax credit?
    I mean all the hardware left overseas; all the money being pissed away in middle east....ukraine.....fug is right!
    Just think if the idiots we elected actually spent that money in the US....maybe on the border.....maybe to find a cure for cancer.....
    Whats happening on the border is exactly what they want to happen, its planned, its part of their plan.
     

    DustyDog

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    More likely Israel...
    Of course, it's more complicated than that. Check out this article written by a Zionist, talking about the plans of a Zionist, published on the website of a globalist front organization. The title describes the plan, the rest of the article is mostly utter bullshit, to wit:

    "If there’s any single principle that animates Israel’s security doctrine, it’s that Israel will defend itself, by itself—and rely on no other country to fight its battles." From:

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...-ukraine-to-be-a-big-israel-heres-a-road-map/

    I think Zelenskyy is trying to finish the job they started in the 1930s (mentioned in the Ynet News article in the next link, now only available on Wayback... which takes a while to load):

    Depopulate Ukraine (much like they did Palestine), in order to gain control of the resources.

    https://web.archive.org/web/2024080...netnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    And for anyone who still thinks that the "State of Israel" has anything to do with Jews:




    Wow... that one^^^ was "Rabbi Shapiro on how Anti-Zionism became the new Antisemitism | Redacted w Natali Morris"... I guess Redacted got a "phone call". Let's try another:

     
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    Bodhisattva

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    Whats happening on the border is exactly what they want to happen, its planned, its part of their plan.
    I think its because we have the greatest country on earth and people want to be here and live here, and I disagree that "its part of their plan," no, I think no one had a plan for the mass crossings
    Even when republicans are in office people cross the border illegally.
     

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    I think its because we have the greatest country on earth and people want to be here and live here, and I disagree that "its part of their plan," no, I think no one had a plan for the mass crossings
    Even when republicans are in office people cross the border illegally.
    Yes, but the problems in third-world countries are usually not due to some defect in the soil... the people are the problem.

    Immigrants who came here legally in the past often did so for the "opportunity" to go out and bust ass in the wilderness. Now, most come illegally for the handouts. Why do lawbreakers go to the front of the line? Transplant a weed into your garden, it will remain a weed.

    We cannot remain the greatest country on Earth if we import all the 4 billion(?) "wretched refuse from teeming shores". Those words aren't found in our Constitution, as many seem to believe. They are from a poem written by a Jewish woman in the late 1800s. It never was and most certainly should not be national policy. Curiously, the "Jewish State" has the opposite philosophy.

    And yes, it is the "plan" of most "republicans" as well... that's part of why they hate Trump so much. The lowest rates of illegal entry in recent history... under Trump... became the highest in history under Biden.
     
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    Bodhisattva

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    Yes, but the problems in third-world countries are usually not due to some defect in the soil... the people are the problem.

    Immigrants who came here legally in the past often did so for the "opportunity" to go out and bust ass in the wilderness. Now, most come illegally for the handouts. Why do lawbreakers go to the front of the line? Transplant a weed into your garden, it will remain a weed.

    We can't remain the greatest country on Earth if we import all the 4 billion(?) "wretched refuse from teeming shores". Those words aren't found in our Constitution, as many seem to believe. They are from a poem written by a Jewish woman in the late 1800s. Curiously, the "Jewish State" has the opposite philosophy.

    And yes, it is the "plan" of most "republicans" as well... that's why they hate Trump so much. The lowest rates in recent history... under Trump... became the highest in history under Biden.
    We are a country founded by immigrants....for immigrants.
    Have to keep that in perspective. Are there problems? Sure. Are there abuses? Absolutely. No system is perfect and the balance is to be found somewhere between North Korea and our country.

    I do agree we need restraints, and the law followed, but I also don't believe it is as bad as the mainstream media (fear porn-mongers) would have us believe. You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. That is the paradigm of politics.
     

    DustyDog

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    We are a country founded by immigrants....for immigrants.
    Have to keep that in perspective. Are there problems? Sure. Are there abuses? Absolutely. No system is perfect and the balance is to be found somewhere between North Korea and our country.

    I do agree we need restraints, and the law followed, but I also don't believe it is as bad as the mainstream media (fear porn-mongers) would have us believe. You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. That is the paradigm of politics.
    Most of us are native-born. What about us and what we want? Hell, most of our founders were not immigrants. I'd say it was founded for the Citizens, not "people from all over hell and back".

    And, just as someone once said that "Democracy must be more than just a counting of heads without any consideration as to what's in them", "Whatever floats ashore" is not an "immigration policy".
     

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    We are a country founded by immigrants....for immigrants.
    Have to keep that in perspective. Are there problems? Sure. Are there abuses? Absolutely. No system is perfect and the balance is to be found somewhere between North Korea and our country.

    I do agree we need restraints, and the law followed, but I also don't believe it is as bad as the mainstream media (fear porn-mongers) would have us believe. You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. That is the paradigm of politics.
    Used to immigrants, came to this country, wanted to be Americans, learned to speak the language assimilated into the culture as best they could. They wanted their children to be Americans. Thats' not what it is happening now , they are not assimilating , they bring their culture, they do not want to learn the language, they fly their nations flags, Diversity. Personally I believe the problem is a lot worse than the media is telling you.

    A nation without borders, common values and culture is not a nation, multiculturalism will destroy western civilization.
     

    DustyDog

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    European immigrants. Other white people. To suggest the founders intended anything else is dishonest.

    Yeah give us your huddled poor masses, wonders who’s idea THAT was???
    Yep... if anyone can find "text, history, and tradition" of/for open borders in our founders' time, I'd like to see it :)

    Certainly it wasn't founded for people elsewhere (e.g., for the British? NOPE), it was founded by and for those who were here. The fact that immigration wasn't completely prohibited doesn't change that fact. Those who were here had the power and duty to decide who could follow.
     
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