Ar pistol

[ilintner]

Learn something new every day, thanks for the info .

So a weapon, without a buttstock, with a VFG, that is over 26" in length is not a Rifle, Pistol, or AOW, it is just a "firearm". I am now completely convinced that they just make this shit up as they go.

 

[JohnAL]

The magpul AFG was ruled as OK from what I recall, but I don't have any info to support that.

Here is one ATF letter to someone asking about an AFG. Very last paragraph.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0q...g1MC00NzVhLWI3NmMtZDRiNTMzNzdhMzUx/edit?hl=en

 

[JohnAL]

Yes, You may add a VFG if and only if OAL exceeds 26"

Yes, but in the first letter the ATF says than neither firearm is classified as a handgun or pistol by the ATF.

 

[Dan1612]

Yes, but in the first letter the ATF says than neither firearm is classified as a handgun or pistol by the ATF.

Right, it becomes a firearm without specific classification for which no special licensing is needed.

Frank, it's as always, build at your own risk. Lol.

 

[Carbmofo]

I say it's best just to lean to the cautious side about all of this. Lol

All of these laws are open to their interpretation. I once read that these letters should be use as information only.


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[FrankT]

True Carb, push the rules and you will find yourself on the wrong side and they also change on a whim.

 

[ilintner]

Right, it becomes a firearm without specific classification for which no special licensing is needed.

Frank, it's as always, build at your own risk. Lol.

they also change on a whim.

This!

 

[TraderDan]

EVIL Looking things, you would have to get a separate safe so they don't influence the other rifles and go on a killing spree.
and YES they are Stupid Loud, a real deaf mans dream to be next to one of these at the range!

 

[D_odom1600]

Any good websites for parts? And a complete list?

 

[Carbmofo]

One more of my ar pistols that we just got done. Just needs a light weight bcg and it will be don't. Trying to go less than 3.5-4 lbs.

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[Dan1612]

Any good websites for parts? And a complete list?

TGD will have almost everything. I used a Spike's lower and CMMG lpk from him for my last build. He also has the tools. Everything worked great!

 

[poff09]

I've been dying to build one of these for awhile..in 5.56 & 300BLK..was also looking to add the law tactical folding stock..looks much easier to carry


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[Carbmofo]

You will have to get a tax stamp if you add that stock.


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[poff09]

Where did u read that..seen plenty built without tax..no doubting u just haven't seen anything to support it yet


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[Carbmofo]

Let me rephrase. If you install a stock onto it, you will need a stamp. My pws tube is 7 inches. No need for it to fold. Lol


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[poff09]

I know it's another UNneeded accessory..I just think it looks badass when added to sig brace


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[Carbmofo]

I haven't thought of adding it to one of my brace setups. Interesting idea. Though my sig 556 rifle has a folding Ddles/ctr setup and it never gets folded. Lol


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[Dan1612]

That folding contraption is VERY clever.

I'll be really impressed when someone makes a tubeless 300 blk pistol though.

 

[ilintner]

One more of my ar pistols that we just got done. Just needs a light weight bcg and it will be don't. Trying to go less than 3.5-4 lbs.

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There is that "we" thing again.....

 

[madeSICC88]

Any good websites for parts? And a complete list?

PSA will have some good deals on lowers and LPKs, I watch slick guns.com a lot and was able to score my spikes stripped lower for $70. My whole build ended up costing me about $600.