Here it is guys... Feinstein's bill she will introduce to the 2013 legislation

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  • Patoz

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    In January, Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devises.

    Summary of 2013 legislation


    Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:

    • Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
      • 120 specifically-named firearms
      • Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
      • Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds
    • Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
      • Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
      • Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
      • Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans
    • Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
    • Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
      • Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
      • Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
      • Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons
    • Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
      • Background check of owner and any transferee;
      • Type and serial number of the firearm;
      • Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
      • Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
      • Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration
    http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons
     

    b747fp

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    It's scary 'Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic', so if my .22 shoots bullets, and a military M4 shoots bullets, THEY MUST BE OUTLAWED!!!!!!!!!!!!
     

    flyandscuba

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    The last part is interesting... Get ready to pay a $200 tax for each one of your existing "evil" weapons if you want to keep them.

    I don't think her bill has a chance of passing the house - but the media will continue to brainwash the masses... I had to "educate" my own 80+ year old mom over Christmas dinner that the 2nd Amendment wasn't about hunting, sporting, or self defense - and that "weapons of war" have been prohibited or restricted for civilian ownership since 1934.

    We, as gun owners, do have a battle on our hands. Contact your Representatives - the battle will be won there, not the Senate.
     

    Gravity3694

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    I doubt we will have to pay $200 per existing firearm. Section 207(b) allows the Attorney General to grant up to 90 day amnesty periods. Amnesty periods have always been tax free. Adding a tax would frustrate the construction of the NFA since it regulates by taxation the transfer of NFA firearms rather than mere possession.

    The ATF hates amnesty periods and refuses to do them unless absolutely necessary. Over the years several people have launched lawsuits (I can't recall the cases) challenging the legality of limited amnesties that apply to specific firearms. In other words if they are going to pull an amnesty then it has to be all NFA items or nothing, which will include machineguns (poison pill them to death).

    The latter part of Feinstein's proposal makes me wonder if this new AWB will allow registration via the trust route. It seems shes pretty specific about forcing people to go the individual route, to which some people will get screwed over by anti gun CLEOS. There's reliefs set in place by the ATF if you have anti-gun CLEOS, but I wager msot people in these situations would rather just give up and turn in their firearm. Also, if in the future the transfer of "assault weapons" are banned then at least a trust can allow transfer via probate trust law.

    If she wants to make them NFA weapons then I say we SBS and SBR everything. If we really want to be bold then put 922o (the Hughes amendment) on the table and force them to swallow it if they want this crazy legislation.
     

    FUPAGUNT

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    Im worried about my mags and wondering if I should sell them all off now and just buy more later if they arent banned.. i just realized i have 0 10 rounders...
     

    Gravity3694

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    I find this to be the most insane part.


    • Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
    • Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds

    The vast majority of handguns would fall in this category. She has seriously overplayed her hand if she is calling for the NFA registration of nearly all semi-auto handguns in America.

    The last ban was poorly enforced in regard to magazines, not one person was ever prosecuted. Furthermore, there was no standardized method to determine or mark if the mag was post or pre ban.
     

    SAWMAN

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    Didn't think about the 10 rds in a handgun thing. Guess everyone needs a good ol' 1911.

    ALL my Glock mags for the 31,32,and 20 are >10rds. But I see they are the same price as the hi-caps nowadays. --- SAWMAN
     

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    Didn't think about the 10 rds in a handgun thing. Guess everyone needs a good ol' 1911.

    --- SAWMAN

    They make 10 round mags for 1911s.

    I think she's pushing hard because she knows that through negotiation and compromise this will be watered down considerably. This is just her first offer.
     
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    moron1

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    Does this mean 1911's will be banned since they were used by the military? (Military characteristic? WHAT?) I bet she tried to include "NO PISTOL GRIPS ON PISTOLS" until someone whispered in her ear that they would be hard to hold onto without one. What really makes me think I'm living in BIZZARRO world is that this is one of the same idiots who introduced the 1995 Gun Free School Zone Act. They thought it would be a great idea to take away Second amendment rights on school property. All of America has witnessed our schools become killing fields because of her(and others) decision and now she may potentially cause a civil war. Anyone who has studied history knows that first comes registration and then confiscation.
     

    Blackeyes

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    Any idea what if anything happens to Class III stuff ?
    I mean as far as being able to pay the tax, pass the BG check and still be approved?
     

    wildrider666

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    Hoplophobia gone wild and spreading quickly among the ignorant.

    "Ban" is not well defined. Does it mean:
    No more import or non Mil/LE sale?
    Will Preban mags will be grandfathered?
    Will Banned Mags need to be registered like MG Sears?

    Firearm registration only precedes one thing. We all know what that is. They did it after Katrina! Ask Hitler, Ask the Aussey's, The English, and the Irish. Maybe the Cartels will start running guns with their drug shipments. Maybe the ATF will get some of their F&F guns back. Since the Gov has lost the Drug War. What do they think will happen when they ban guns? Could it be that the criminals would dare break a gun law? Oh my, tell me I'm far too imaginative. A criminal like the Murderer that shot the firemen this week with an AR. That could not happen! There are laws that say a convicted felon can't have a gun!!!! That guy only killed his own Grandmother 17 years earlier and his sister just before setting the fires! Someone must have planted that gun. Come now, Criminals don't violate gun laws do they.


    Today I am a Law Abiding Citizen. I change nothing and the politicians impose new laws and make me a criminal.
    I am not the person that committed the crimes we see on the news. Why am I being penalized for their actions?

    God made all men, Samuel Colt made all men equal, 2013 Gun Control made them criminals or victims.
     

    wildrider666

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    I'm sure the ATF and other Fed LE orgs are gonna start making a list of gun bunnies that are very vocal and passionate about their God given rights as also supported by the second amendment.

    Is it not too funny that Hitler's most feared Corp was the SS, Who guards our Pres? SS of course. Don't forget about the Obama Youth Corps working under Homeland Security/Fema with all their armored vehicles and auto weapons. I'm sure you remember the ungodly BIG ammo buy the Gov (non-DoD) is doing. Enough to shoot each US citizen about 25 time each.

    Sleep well.
     

    Ken232

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    Guys if ya aint got on the phone with every state congressmen and senator and had your family and friends do the same and let this go the way of " Well hell no Way Obama can get re-elected" then you are giving them a free ride. Next Tuesday I'll be calling every one of them in this state asking them to NOT support ANY weapons ban, but to support mental health medical aide and do away with "gun Free" Zones and giving them logical explanations WHY
     

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    I'm sure the ATF and other Fed LE orgs are gonna start making a list of gun bunnies that are very vocal and passionate about their God given rights as also supported by the second amendment.

    Is it not too funny that Hitler's most feared Corp was the SS, Who guards our Pres? SS of course. Don't forget about the Obama Youth Corps working under Homeland Security/Fema with all their armored vehicles and auto weapons. I'm sure you remember the ungodly BIG ammo buy the Gov (non-DoD) is doing. Enough to shoot each US citizen about 25 time each.

    Sleep well.

    :twitch: So your saying that the members of the Secret Service are in the same league as Hitler's murderers and that the Secret Service which predates the Schutzestaffel (Nazi SS) by 60 years is one in the same?

    Sorry for the threadjack.
     

    flyandscuba

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    Feinstein's bill is DOA -- she'll never get it passed... Rest easy friends --the winds will pass and blow in a different direction in a couple of months...especially if we go over the fiscal cliff. I'm glad I'm not in dire need of anything right now -- but I'm not too concerned about losing what I have to the liberal nut cases. 311 million firearms in the public's hands (and rising quickly) say otherwise. Unlike the Brits, Aussies, and New Zelanders --Amercans will not "turn them in" in large numbers for destruction.
     

    wildrider666

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    I said what you read! Just a play on words/letters. Don't get your knickers in a twist over the Dept Of Treasury "A Team". Whisper into your wrist mic "All secure" and take off your pack. I got no problem with the Secret Service except for the John and Bobby Kennedy thing, and the almost Ford thing with Squeaky who's gun jammed, or the Reagan/Brady thing. Other then that, their pretty good most of the time.

    Just Coincidence. Like the Hitler Youth Movement I compared to the New Homeland/FEMA armed boy scouts. If there mission is to help out in a national disaster why do they need firearms/training. What exactly is the Gov training the "play-station generation" for? Why didn't we see any of this new private FEMA army when Sandy destroyed the north east? I guess their training is not related to weather disasters. I won't even go into the Socialist Government aspect of it. This thread is about up and coming gun control. Hitler had guns registered, then he confiscated them all. Then Hitler continued on his rampage outside his borders. So whats proposed under this gun control proposal? Total Bans, NFA Registration, confiscation of property, no private or transfer of these weapons. no transfer to family if owner dies. Sounds like a lot of jack booted thugs to me. Don't like it send me a PM.
     

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    Feinstein's bill is DOA -- she'll never get it passed... Rest easy friends --the winds will pass and blow in a different direction in a couple of months...especially if we go over the fiscal cliff. I'm glad I'm not in dire need of anything right now -- but I'm not too concerned about losing what I have to the liberal nut cases. 311 million firearms in the public's hands (and rising quickly) say otherwise. Unlike the Brits, Aussies, and New Zelanders --Amercans will not "turn them in" in large numbers for destruction.

    I don't think this bill or at least any bill this extreme will pass either. The debate has been emotionally driven and people will forget and start looking at facts soon.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/kurt...panic-as-they-lose-the-gun-narrative-n1473885
     
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