Put the responsibility on the convicts?

[Tomslick]

This idea keeps running through my mind and the more I think about it, the more I like it.

Why not require convicted felons to pay an extra $10 to have a mark (maybe a red star) on their driver's license or state ID card? That way the gun grabbers lose their "private sales loophole" rallying point without putting any more burden on legitimate gun owners or costing the taxpayers a penny (it would pay for any effort on the state's part).

It wouldn't be any more burdensome on convicts than requiring U.S. citizens to prove themselves to get that gold star on our licenses ( I had to pay for mine the last time I renewed my driver's license).It also wouldn't violate their right to privacy as criminal convictions are part of the public record already.

What do you guys think?

 

[Seanpcola]

Sounds like a perfect idea......therefore the powers that be won't allow it. I'm sure the ACLU would find a reason for it to be objectionable.

Worth a shot though.

 

[Tomslick]

Just seems like a really simple, effective solution. That's probably why it'll never pan out!!

 

[Seanpcola]

I agree, you came up with an excellent plan. I don't mean to be a buzz kill. It's just that everything is so effed up that simple, elegant solutions never float to the top. Add to it you know "they" would never do anything to help the pro 2 a cause. This present administration and most likely all the future ones are for the other team.

 

[Dan1612]

I like it.

 

[Calculated steps]

It sounds like awesome idea sr.

 

[FrankT]

Well there is that or a TAT across their forehead FELON, they get to pick.

 

[Snow Bird]

Sounds like a good idea to me to.

 

[Seanpcola]

I'm thinking through the angles here. How hard is a DL to forge well enough to pass rudimentary inspection. Would a felon go through the hassle to buy a firearm face to face or would this just keep "honest" felons honest?

 

[Tomslick]

Keeping them honest is definitely above my pay grade. I like the reassurance of knowing at a glance my conscience is clear about who I'm selling to. Once it's enacted, it would be another charge for those who don't follow the rules. I think its a win-win!

 

[Tomslick]

Anybody know how we can get this in front of the politicos in Tallahassee?

 

[oneshot]

They probably want do it because they wouldn't want it on their license. just my 5 cents jj

 

[MarkS]

This is to good of an idea to ever get pass the politicians. Common sense ideas are doomed from the lack of politicians common sense.

 

[Tomslick]

I agree. I don't think career politicians do anything unless there's something in it for them but to know the eight thing to do without acting on it makes us just as bad! This is an idea I think we can shame them into.

 

[Tomslick]

I agree. I don't think career politicians do anything unless there's something in it for them but to know the eight thing to do without acting on it makes us just as bad! This is an idea I think we can shame them into.

Supposed to be RIGHT thing, not eight thing

 

[bamachem]

How do you make them get the red star or other mark on their license? Do you tell them they have to do it and impose a penalty if they don't? Do you run a background check for every license renewal?

If you want to be covered as an individual, there's already another way to do it - just require a CCW permit to be presented at the time of sale. If they have a CCW permit, then you know they have already passed a background check...

 

[Tomslick]

That covers the seller but we know the gun grabbers will keep coming. I like the idea of shifting responsibility to the crooks.

 

[fv22]

Anybody know how we can get this in front of the politicos in Tallahassee?

Contact Florida State Senate President Don Gaetz gaetz.don.web@flsenate.gov or through his websitehttp://www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s1 and his son Representative Matt Gaetz. Don't have his email handy but his website with all contact info is http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/sections/representatives/details.aspx?MemberId=4478 They would be the 2 best guys to start with. I will contact them both about this idea, hope they get hundreds of emails about it.

 

[bamachem]

Oh, I do too. Unfortunately, if you make it the license clerk's responsibility, you add time to each renewal, which makes the lines longer. If you make it the felon's responsibility to notify the license clerk, then you run the risk of them not complying with the law (something they've already proven they will do), and you have the potential for felons to circumvent the very thing you want to prevent, which is them getting around a system of identification. If you put the responsibility on the felon, then you have to have a system of checks to ensure they are doing it. Checking anything for compliance costs money and time. I'm just saying that because of the budgetary impact, a $10 fee isn't going to cut it.

 

[Tomslick]

Even with the number of felons in Florida?