Thing might no be what we've been told

[Ric-san]

Reinhardt recused himself from a lawsuit being brought by Trump against Hillary Clinton over impartiality concerns

Interesting twist in the Magistrates recent past….

Trump lawyer: Why did Judge Reinhart recuse himself from Clinton case?

Ex-president Donald Trump's go to personal lawyer Alina Habba has continued her offensive against the judge who okayed the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago this week.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Snake-Eyes]

Not a lawyer, but my understanding is that you can only take “stuff” that’s on a warrant, nothing else. If you see something else, you must get another warrant, OR it would be “fruit of the poison tree” and tossed. My guess is anything else found would be “leaked“ to the press and then try to fire up the left’s and independents base to turn and burn on the Orange Man.

Not a lawyer, either.

Doesn’t really matter, though, since what is right isn’t what is driving the current regime.

With a legitimate warrant to seize documents, they aren’t wrong to seize documents. They would be wrong to seize a wooden chair bought last week, but not documents.

During the course of inventory and cataloguing those documents, whatever is “found” would be considered legitimate, unless proven otherwise.
How and when that document got into that box, and whether or not it’s even a truthful document, would be irrelevant. “Legitimate until proven otherwise”.

Does anyone really trust chain of custody in the FBI? Especially when security cameras were ordered to be turned off and no outside observers during the grab?

Feels like November 2020 all over again.
“Nothing to see here”. “Everything is fine.” “Trust us.” “You’re crazy and extremist conspiracy theory believers if you question the process.”

Let’s Go Brandon.

 

[Southalabama]

Listen to merrick garlands graveling presser of August 12 where he says he approved (gave the nod) the warrant. He doesn't say he signed off. Sooo does that mean he has plausible deniability?

Who knows what he means? Does it matter? It doesn’t effect the case. Garland will be unemployed in 2024. It will mean whatever he wants but to mean depending on whose asking.

The material seized won’t be suppressed. The question will be whether the documents were properly declassified. Trump wanting them to be doesn’t make it so. Was the proper procedure followed. Based on the history of Trumps prior lawyers I’d almost bet they botched the job. If evidence shows he wanted it declassified but his court jesters failed to take the proper steps then since the material was returned likely no prosecution. IMHO. They will do like they did to Hillary. Do a report critical of her handling of documents and close the file.

This politically is probably a gift from the heavens for Trump. He should send the FBI a gift basket.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

Who knows what he means? Does it matter? It doesn’t effect the case. Garland will be unemployed in 2024. It will mean whatever he wants but to mean depending on whose asking.

The material seized won’t be suppressed. The question will be whether the documents were properly declassified. Trump wanting them to be doesn’t make it so. Was the proper procedure followed. Based on the history of Trumps prior lawyers I’d almost bet they botched the job. If evidence shows he wanted it declassified but his court jesters failed to take the proper steps then since the material was returned likely no prosecution. IMHO. They will do like they did to Hillary. Do a report critical of her handling of documents and close the file.

This politically is probably a gift from the heavens for Trump. He should send the FBI a gift basket.

Not necessarily. According to the law, the POTUS and VPOTUS don’t have to follow specific protocol/procedures to declassify something. It’s in black and white. Verbal notice is sufficient. No forms or other BS. Everyone else, sure. Not them.

Trump had a “standing order” that when classified material was removed from the Oval Office to be transported to his home (or something to that effect) it was declassified. Loophole, sure, but a CYA policy to keep things legal. Corroborated, in the past before it was considered an issue of contention, by multiple staffers.

Everything in those boxes should be considered declassified, by order of the ultimate classification authority, the POTUS.

The entire “publicly reported” basis of this sham seizure is unfounded, at best, and treasonously corrupt, at worst.

 

[Southalabama]

Not necessarily. According to the law, the POTUS and VPOTUS don’t have to follow specific protocol/procedures to declassify something. It’s in black and white. Verbal notice is sufficient. No forms or other BS. Everyone else, sure. Not them.

Trump had a “standing order” that when classified material was removed from the Oval Office to be transported to his home (or something to that effect) it was declassified. Loophole, sure, but a CYA policy to keep things legal. Corroborated, in the past before it was considered an issue of contention, by multiple staffers.

Everything in those boxes should be considered declassified, by order of the ultimate classification authority, the POTUS.

The entire “publicly reported” basis of this sham seizure is unfounded, at best, and treasonously corrupt, at worst.

The general rule is the president has the authority to declassify material. However, there are some exceptions to that," Dunn said. “First, that authority only lasts while the person is actually president. Second, another president can reverse that decision. And then there's also another category of material that cannot be declassified, and that's anything related to nuclear power, nuclear weapons, and those go back to Atomic Energy Acts from the late 40s and 50s. And so, even if the president wants to declassify that material, the president cannot.”

 

[Southalabama]

So the issue will turn on what they actually found not his wishes.

 

[Snake-Eyes]

The general rule is the president has the authority to declassify material. However, there are some exceptions to that," Dunn said. “First, that authority only lasts while the person is actually president. Second, another president can reverse that decision. And then there's also another category of material that cannot be declassified, and that's anything related to nuclear power, nuclear weapons, and those go back to Atomic Energy Acts from the late 40s and 50s. And so, even if the president wants to declassify that material, the president cannot.”

It’s not “his wishes”, it’s what was official policy while he was POTUS. So “Dunn”’s first-of-all is moot.

As for a current POTUS re-classifying something, then fine. “Hey Orange-man, my handler’s say I need to classify your high school diploma TS-SCI, so there!” Trump isn’t a criminal at that point; he’d just hand over his diploma. You know, like he was ALREADY complying with the current regime’s bullshyte. These clowns just want to flex their small muscles at any opportunity.

Finally, if nuclear stuff can’t be declassified, then it’s a more likely situation that nuclear stuff wasn’t sent home, huh? At least, not on purpose. Gee, White House staffers “never” attempted to stab 45 in the back, right?

This whole thing is a sham. Like every other sham this regime has tried. Any excuse to cheat and lie and force something, anything.

Pay no attention to the mumbling sniffling moron puppet and the damage he’s inflicting on everyone... gotta distract the (du)masses.

 

[Southalabama]

Trump should thank them.

Then they all need to stfu.

Eric Trump saying they watched the raid on surveillance cameras is not helpful for any potential allegations documents were planted.

If there were nuclear documents wonder why he had it?

Desantis is probably crying about now as people rally to Trump.

 

[Welldoya]

Not a lawyer, either.

Doesn’t really matter, though, since what is right isn’t what is driving the current regime.

With a legitimate warrant to seize documents, they aren’t wrong to seize documents. They would be wrong to seize a wooden chair bought last week, but not documents.

During the course of inventory and cataloguing those documents, whatever is “found” would be considered legitimate, unless proven otherwise.
How and when that document got into that box, and whether or not it’s even a truthful document, would be irrelevant. “Legitimate until proven otherwise”.

Does anyone really trust chain of custody in the FBI? Especially when security cameras were ordered to be turned off and no outside observers during the grab?

Feels like November 2020 all over again.
“Nothing to see here”. “Everything is fine.” “Trust us.” “You’re crazy and extremist conspiracy theory believers if you question the process.”

Let’s Go Brandon.

That is a fact. The Dems are doing things so crooked and outlandish that you look crazy accusing them of it.

 

[Coomer]

 

[Coomer]

 

[Southalabama]

Eric said they watched the raid on security cameras. They should post it.

 

[LowRiderRed]

Trust the plan!

2 more weeks guys...

What happens in 2 weeks?

 

[Carl]

What happens in 2 weeks?

2 more weeks

 

[Southalabama]

And then two more weeks?

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

And then two more weeks?

And then, and then...

 

[Krazy1]

14 FBI whistleblowers have stepped forward

CITIZEN FREE PRESS

The Greatest News Site On The Internet. Home of CFP Nation.

citizenfreepress.com

 

[Longtooth]

And then two more weeks?

I think that was a whole reference to the "Trust the plan" group as they sat on their hands. lol

 

[Southalabama]

14 FBI whistleblowers have stepped forward

CITIZEN FREE PRESS

The Greatest News Site On The Internet. Home of CFP Nation.

citizenfreepress.com

I hope they tell someone besides Jim Jordan.

 

[Krazy1]

I hope they tell someone besides Jim Jordan.

Not one peep from the main stream media. Remember the whistleblowers that came out against Trump got 24/7 coverage.