Trump and his NATO plan...

[Rebel_Rider1969]

Oops, all hells gonna break loose.
Without US there is no NATO.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/02/nato-second-trump-term-00164517

 

[IronBeard]

Heard this before. Failed to deliver. "Obstructionists" = BS. Failed to read the battle/playing field, failed at team-building, and failed to observe, orient, decide, and act.

Regarding this NATO at-bat steee-rike one! Will believe it when I see it. Gimme a written plan and hold yourself, and others, to it, or it's all just campaign BS. Even the leftists will tell you exactly what they intend to do, then move out on doing it. And they've been pretty sucessful at delivering on their promises

 

[sloporsche]

In the 80's NATO 's war planners predicted the Warsaw pack armored forces would be at the english channel within 90 days if NATO had air supremacy ,60 days if NATO had air superiority . It was expected the first nuke shot was going to be fired by a NATO member and all hell to break loose . It was another example of MAD and it worked for decades

 

[Bodhisattva]

yep
Trumps promise to “end the Ukraine war within 24 hours” can only mean he lets Putin keep territory and screws our NATO allies

 

[BluesBrother]

sabre rattling

 

[Raven]

yep
Trumps promise to “end the Ukraine war within 24 hours” can only mean he lets Putin keep territory and screws our NATO allies

Oh ye of little faith

 

[BluesBrother]

yep
Trumps promise to “end the Ukraine war within 24 hours” can only mean he lets Putin keep territory and screws our NATO allies

If this is the way it happens than you can rest assured DJT thought it in the best interests of USA not for his own gain like we see with the current occupant of the WH and his family.

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

If this is the way it happens than you can rest assured DJT thought it in the best interests of USA not for his own gain like we see with the current occupant of the WH and his family.

He might could get something done, as he has no Washington buddies to look out for.

 

[Rebel_Rider1969]

He did exit the G20, but dipshit joined back up. ( or somebody, did) I don't recall voting on that. There should be a vote by the amercian people for ANY CASH LEAVING CONUS. But who am I kidding.

 

[BluesBrother]

He might could get something done, as he has no Washington buddies to look out for.

There will always be the deep state he'll have to contend with. DJT advantage is I think he has a handle on who they are.

 

[Bodhisattva]

There will always be the deep state he'll have to contend with. DJT advantage is I think he has a handle on who they are.

Ok

 

[Bodhisattva]

He might could get something done, as he has no Washington buddies to look out for.

Can I at least get a tax credit for all the s*it I’ve paid for that has been used in that conflict?

 

[G-rat]

Can I at least get a tax credit for all the s*it I’ve paid for that has been used in that conflict?

+1 right-chere

 

[FLT]

Joe will give that all the attention,he thinks it deserves.

 

[IronBeard]

In the 80's NATO 's war planners predicted the Warsaw pack armored forces would be at the english channel within 90 days if NATO had air supremacy ,60 days if NATO had air superiority . It was expected the first nuke shot was going to be fired by a NATO member and all hell to break loose . It was another example of MAD and it worked for decades

BTDT. My job was controlling air strikes in the Fulda gap; estimated 14-minute life expectancy if I effed it up. Formative years learning lessons about !@#$ no one thinks will ever happen. OK, then...

 

[olliges74]

Heard this before. Failed to deliver. "Obstructionists" = BS. Failed to read the battle/playing field, failed at team-building, and failed to observe, orient, decide, and act.

Regarding this NATO at-bat steee-rike one! Will believe it when I see it. Gimme a written plan and hold yourself, and others, to it, or it's all just campaign BS. Even the leftists will tell you exactly what they intend to do, then move out on doing it. And they've been pretty sucessful at delivering on their promises

Thing is, I think DJT learned his lesson the first time on who not to trust, and the way the game really is played. He got stabbed in the back multiple times. Then, over the last 4 years, they've mercilessly attacked him, indicted him for all kinds of stupid shit and generally drug his name through the mud. Now that he knows, I firmly believe he's really going to move the needle and follow through. If he doesn't make any big waves and follow through this time, then I fear we are screwed, as none of this (to include funding NATO) is sustainable unless you make your people slaves and tax the living shit out of them.

 

[IronBeard]

Thing is, I think DJT learned his lesson the first time on who not to trust, and the way the game really is played. He got stabbed in the back multiple times. Then, over the last 4 years, they've mercilessly attacked him, indicted him for all kinds of stupid shit and generally drug his name through the mud. Now that he knows, I firmly believe he's really going to move the needle and follow through. If he doesn't make any big waves and follow through this time, then I fear we are screwed, as none of this (to include funding NATO) is sustainable unless you make your people slaves and tax the living shit out of them.

I sure do hope he has learned a lesson or two. Just don't care for the circumstances we're apparently stuck with; have to elect him to find out...

 

[Raven]

Get this party started
I hope Trump uses that giant reset button and nukes the crap out of everybody so fast before any of them can respond and just gets it over with so we and all our offspring can quit living in fear of nukes. Nuclear winter is gonna suck big time but that way will actually save lives, because only one side will lose lives. Only way to do this is not with flying ICBM's or submarines... because these can be intercepted... but rather with nukes secreted into place or even built in place. And then detonated with no warning whatsoever. Predictive programming showed this plan is already being passed around higher up, in the Jericho series. Well worth watching... which is why the government called the network and got Jericho Season 3 canceled after they'd already produced it. It hit way too close to the truth

 

[tatwell]

We need a president that is feared around the world. All the crap around the world started under Biden including Russian sub in Cuban not since JFK

 

[Raven]

We need a president that is feared around the world. All the crap around the world started under Biden including Russian sub in Cuban not since JFK

Exactly.

BTW, good to see you posting sir. Hope all is well