Just picked up my first sub-compact (a Canik Tp9 elite SC). Just wondering what everyone likes for a self-defense round. I'm also curious about +p ammo in a shorter barrel, will it make any difference? Thanks in advance.
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True dat !!!!Anything in 45.
Makes sense on the wear and tear. So do you prefer +p or non +p for defense? This is all new to me.I prefer either Speer Gold Dots or Federal HSTs, pretty much all I buy now for defense loads. I’ve used Hornady Critical Duty as well but my carry pistols don’t like it too much.
+P ammo in a shorter barrel should make up for a bit of the inherent velocity loss. Tradeoff is a bit more parts wear on a steady diet of +P stuff.
Bass pro should have a few brands too.I agree to an extent, but if paying more means more consistent expansion then it would ease my mind a little in a need be situation. I watched a few videos but they are older so I wanted to ask around to see if there is anything new. Seems federal and Speer are the go to still. I’ve seen good reports on Sig’s V-Crown and thought about ordering some. Which is cheaper.
Keep in mind the military uses ball ammo and kills HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people. So do 99% of gang bangers.I'm actually the opposite. My opposition to shooting stuff like HST or Gold Dots is that they are wayyyy to expensive to practice with. So I test a whole bunch of lower tier stuff like Freedom Munitions with the XTP bullets, Aguilla and Fiocchi HP and so forth. Then I shoot the @#$@#@#$ out of it. They theory is,
#1 Reliability is the absolute first critical factor in self defense and,
#2 shot placement, shot placement, shot placement (paraphrasing Col. Cooper)
Thanks for the info on the grains, the canik is heavier than most SC handguns so it already is easy to follow up. But 147 would be smooth I’m sure.I’m carrying either Federal HST 124 or 147 grain or IMI black tips, can’t remember what they call them offhand. I use pretty much all 124 in my 4” and longer barrel pistols, and 147 in the sub compacts and micros. Less muzzle rise equals faster follow ups for me at least and I can get more accurate rounds on target faster.
Word to the wise - do a TON of dry fire training, especially drawing from your holster in front of a mirror. Good ammo makes a huge difference, but training makes a lot more IMO.
add low light and weak hand practice tooI’m carrying either Federal HST 124 or 147 grain or IMI black tips, can’t remember what they call them offhand. I use pretty much all 124 in my 4” and longer barrel pistols, and 147 in the sub compacts and micros. Less muzzle rise equals faster follow ups for me at least and I can get more accurate rounds on target faster.
Word to the wise - do a TON of dry fire training, especially drawing from your holster in front of a mirror. Good ammo makes a huge difference, but training makes a lot more IMO.